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Thoughts from Lambert, when thinking about the front page prior to launch
You're at that 90% point where anything else you change won't make a difference to anyone.
I removed the phrase "A "community wiki" is a wiki focused on a particular community." because it felt forced — there's no use of the phrase "community wiki" on the front page anywhere. The sentence that proceeded it, "A "wiki" is an interlinked.." fits because we use the word "wiki" throughout the front page. With that sentence removed, I felt there was enough room for "Wiki Spot is a nonprofit, member-supported effort dedicated to helping communities use wikis," which Lambert cut earlier as redundant. When I talked to a couple people about the front page they said that the non-profit goal of the project should be more prominent on the front page (it's mentioned only in the tiny text in the page footer). —PhilipNeustrom
2007-05-02 04:13:58 Latest version of NoScript hates your cross-scripting on login. Not sure why, but did the automatic upgrade of NoScript in Firefox on Mac and the page would constantly reload on login. Safari was okay. There was a option under the NoScript to allow cross-scripting which allowed me to login via Firefox.
I'm referring to loggin in at sacwiki.org. —DarrickServis
I just installed NoScript on FF 2. I'm seeing "NoScript filtered a potential cross-site scripting (XSS) attempt from http://wikispot.org..." Is this what you see, too? If I allow scripts on wikispot.org I can log in, though, and things seem fine. I emailed the developer about the filter issue, though, and I think I can figure out a way to fix it on our end. —PhilipNeustrom
BTW, here's what the developer says: "as you correctly noticed the culprit is wikispot not being in your whitelist. [...] At any rate, you can either whitelist wikispot.org or add the sackwickilogin page to the XSS Filter exceptions, with a line like the following: ^http://www\.sacwiki\.org/"
2007-05-09 22:27:32 I think we'd be well-served by something to the left of the explanatory text at the top of the page. Here's what I think would fix the issue:
2007-07-23 21:58:33 New front page layout looking okay for folks? I think it's a big improvement because it's a lot more focused and sharp. My main concern relates to the luminosity levels of the gray boxes — some will see them as very gray, others as far too light. Such is life :) —PhilipNeustrom
2008-03-05 15:47:55 the screenshot of the new layout looks great! why is it not yet implented? why?? —18.104.22.168
2008-04-01 09:18:50 Some IP person has been vandalizing this page. To prevent further vandalism to a page that isn't changed much, I'm locking it until April Fools' Day is over. If you need to edit it before then, drop me or another admin a line and I'll make sure that you guys can edit what you need to. —WilliamLewis
2009-06-02 02:50:50 CurrentProposed
It's a rough draft, but I'm curious how people like it. —JabberWokky
I like this idea a lot. I think the color on the right could use changing — a light gray (the same gray we use elsewhere) is probably better. The spacing and arrangement could be tweaked a bit. For instance, I think the featured wiki (main) should be above the individually linked wikis — looks too cluttered otherwise. —PhilipNeustrom
I'm actually thinking of getting the spotlight shorter and shorter as the list above it grows until there's enough "featured wikis" to just have a list. Then as the list grows, eventually start rotating them. I.e., just have the completely mature examples of what you can do with Wiki Spot there for people new to Wiki Spot to grasp the idea. Another change that I'd like to make is obvious... have a series of language flags with alternate languages. We need to start addressing the non-English crowd, as they clearly seem to be using Wiki Spot. Sarah knows enough French to rewrite and check a basic translation (and can read pages posted here), I have a very close friend who grew up in Mexico and lived in Florida volunteering as a police translator for many years who not only knows Spanish, but knows the various cultural idioms of Spain and most South and Central American countries, etc. We should get a list of Volunteer Translators together at some point. Oh, and I used light tan to be a contrasting color to draw the "new eye" to that sidebar. Honestly, I kind of picked the colors at random, just keeping them in the general area of complementary or contrasting with the blue scheme. I should use a color wheel tool to create a proper palette with matching saturation and distances. Gray is another option, but I was worried the front page would be too "cold" with just blue and gray. —jw
Current Revision — Okay, after playing with a color wheel, I looked and realized we have another "iconic Wiki Spot color"... that of the notices. I used that for the "Getting Started" highlight, but switched to a neutral gray after coming back to it (it was overwhelming the page a bit). Somebody (maybe it was me?) moved the Spotlight up top, although I still think we should migrate that toward a smaller and smaller writeup as it transitions into a list of mature examples wikis to highlight what people can do (and are doing) with Wiki Spot rather than a singular Featured Wiki. I kind of wonder if we can incorporate featured wikis into the site news, so that the site news features some more of the community successes as well as the bad/technical items. Things like wikis breaking pagecount milestones, or communities getting real world awards or wikis for organizing big events as the event succeeds. Thoughts? And are we getting toward the point where people are comfortable with switching it live? —jw
Going twice... —jw
I still think that the right sidebar should be blue. —wl
It's gray right now. Did you look at the Current Revision? (the screenshots above are outdated). I'm certainly not opposed to blue. It's also something fairly minor we can tweak. Perhaps the background tab/"spot" shade of blue? —jw
2009-06-23 20:39:11 I like the general feel of the new front page but the padding in the tables should be greater — things are too close to the edge. I feel that without this the page looks amateurish and I'm gonna integrate the message w/ the old version for now. I think some CSS tweaks would make it great —PhilipNeustrom
2009-09-07 23:18:52 How about changing the 'featured Wiki' occasionally? Our one, for example too! But if you imply that this feature is going to be varying, then it looks a bit sad to be stuck on just one or two wikis... —NormanNitram
I asked you folks at Wikispot to consider changing their featured wiki, here
- but not for the first time - no reply! Gnomes or other users... (are there any...?!)
I think it is 'in principle' okay to edit the space ourselves. Tell me now if not!
I honestly think the present WIki is a weak advert for the Wikispot site, and that here at
- we have now 'proved' that wikispot can do decent things. We are in principle offering to share our hard work with everyone, not so much boasting!
It was a feature more because it was for an event. -jw
Ain't that a good reason to move it on now? - NN
It looks like you've guys got a lot done. Still, maybe you should have a bit more content first? 138 pages isn't a lot. Then again, the current featured wiki only has 148 pages. —WilliamLewis
2009-09-18 18:02:32 As an occasional writer, it ain't how many pages, it's how FEW pages you take to say what's worth saying that counts in the long run!
But of course you are right, the PI wiki is very much at the beginning stage. But I kind of think it's worth a few weeks on the page here because the design elements are likely of interest to the community - no? —NormanNitram
2009-09-21 21:49:51 This is the suggested text and image for the Wikispot 'featured wiki' box.
[http://philosophical-investigations.wikispot.org/Boxes/Wikispot] Wikispot Front page box - comments please! —NormanNitram
2009-10-05 18:43:58 tell me abt what make a person creative —muzaffar
Dali used to stand against a wall holding a spoon, waiting to fall asleep with his paints laid out. When the spoon fell to the floor as he fell asleep, he would leap up and paint in his half-asleep mindset to capture the odd perceptions as your mind falls into a dream state. Personally, I do... if I'm writing a song, I just start playing guitar and let my fingers find a new song. If I'm sculpting, I work the clay or wood until I find something that catches my attention in it. If I'm building code or something physical, I just start sketching in a journal until the ideas make sense. What are you looking to do? —Evan 'JabberWokky' Edwards
** Interesting, JW, and this would make an great discussion, right at home on our [http://philosophical-investigations.wikispot.org/Boxes/Wikispot] Wiki, muzaffar - anyone! —NormanNitram